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Are Nations Going Extinct? The Rise of the "OG's"

Postby MavericksHMB on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:02 pm

Very interesting article in Alternet this morning: Are Nations Going Extinct? Written by John Goekler, the author posits that we may be headed towards hyperlocal social governance. Goekler cites the rise of the "OG's" (Other Guys) as proof that we're moving away from our notion of nation states. OG's like Hezbollah, MS-13, the Taliban, and LaFamilia.

Today, the nation state is clearly withering. But where Marx saw this as the logical result of a workers' utopia and the perfection of humankind, it is precisely the failure to manifest that utopia and perfection that is both a primary driver, and a primary symptom, of the state’s demise.

This withering has profound implications for foreign policy. Counterinsurgency and nation building doctrines are based on enhancing the legitimacy of the state. If the state as a functional structure is circling the drain, then so are these policies – which might help us understand why nothing seems to work in Afghanistan. The basic assumption of creating a viable state is itself nonviable.


further in the article, Goekler concludes:

Potentially more durable models are beginning to emerge in more affluent regions and neighborhoods. Not because the people there are smarter or more ambitious, but because it’s a lot easier to pursue transformation in a relatively stable environment where you have a significant degree of safety, and the necessary economic resources.

These new models are hyper local, scaling down to city block size or smaller. They feature components like local energy production and grids, with surplus power as an export product. Water capture and reclamation. Food production, including permanent production edible landscapes. Security is provided through self policing – whether through internal patrols or contract providers – with social governance enforced by ‘tribal’ models such as shunning and banishment.

These ‘urban village’ models create local institutions to capture and locally recirculate the big outflows of a typical community – interest, insurance, energy and food – and underwrite community livelihood. In so doing, they decouple from the global system and create the crumple zones that will allow them to weather external system shocks. (Citi goes, bust? Oh well. Our assets are in local infrastructure, local financial institutions, local currencies, seed banks, time banks, root cellars . . .)

In an OG world, the metrics for success are local, democratic and entrepreneurial, with a significant degree of insulation from external fluctuations. Self sufficient, self protective and self healing. Successful OGs will generate not only livelihood, but also safety, Identity, community and fun.

That’s what security means in the 21st century, and that’s what nation states can’t provide.


It's worth reading through some of the comments where a debate seems to be raging about whether Goekler is on the right track, or whether he's out of his mind. Some good comments that support both sides of the debate.
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Re: Are Nations Going Extinct? The Rise of the "OG's"

Postby SillyGoose on Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:00 pm

very interesting, Mavs.

rightwing sci-fi writers Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle are fans of that idea, first posited in their book "Oath of Fealty" and labelled an Arcology.

During the course of the novel, Todos Santos is compared to a feudal society, with loyalty and obligations running both ways, hence the title.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Fealty_(novel)

dem rightwingers love their feudalism, don't they?

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oh, and I liked this post:

Fuller's advice to quietly build the alternative rather than struggle against, in this case, the existing corporatocracy seems wise...
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Re: Are Nations Going Extinct? The Rise of the "OG's"

Postby RitaAnn on Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:02 pm

Mindblowing. Sounds like something that would be good fodder for the likes of Alex Jones and Glenn Beck.
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